Grammar Info

N3 Lesson 2: 14/23

()(こと)I heard that, Rumor has it that, It is said that, It means that

Can be rephrased to とのことだ if expresses hearsay.

Structure

Phrase + いうこと +

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About ということだ

Like ということ, an expression used for nominalizing a phrase in the fashion of 'the ~ that ~', ということだ makes use of the auxiliary verb (or です), and stresses that the nominalized phrase 'is' the case. This phrase is often translated as 'I heard that', or 'it is said that', but literally, it is closer to 'it is that it's ~'. The is what gives this expression a high degree of certainty, therefore implying that the speaker has heard the statement elsewhere, and is sure of its validity.

ということだ can be added to the end of any phrase that the speaker wants to highlight as being something that is known.

ということだ is regularly paired with other expressions that show the 'source' of information, such as によると, or によれば.

When ということだ is being used to express hearsay (statements that cannot easily be proven), it can be rephrased as とのことだ. The literal difference between these two phrases is as follows:

ということだ - It can be explained that (A) is ~ (more emphasis on the information).

とのことだ - The statement of (A) has been applied to ~ (more emphasis on the source that 'applied' the information).

Caution

ということだ is considered to be more formal than そうだ when reporting information that has been heard from another source. This is primarily due to ということだ expressing something that is thought to be a fact, while そうだ retains the nuance of being something that is a speculation/guess.

  • (かれ)家族(かぞく)内緒(ないしょ)旅行(りょこう)()ったそうだ。
    I heard that he went on a trip without telling his family.
  • (かれ)家族(かぞく)内緒(ないしょ)旅行(りょこう)()ったということだ
    It is said that he went on a trip without telling his family.

Examples

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    (ひと)によって(かんが)(かた)(ちが)という(こと)

    It is said that different people have different ways of thinking.

    イルカは動物(どうぶつ)(なか)(あたま)一番(いちばん)いいという(こと)

    It is said that dolphins are the smartest of all animals.

    それはただ文化(ぶんか)(ちが)という(こと)

    That means that their cultures are different. (it is said)

    田中(たなか)さんと山田(やまだ)さんは、秘密(ひみつ)()()っているという(こと)

    It is said that Tanaka-san and Yamada-san are dating in secret. (rumor has it)

    忍耐(にんたい)先生(せんせい)によりますと、ガンの治療(ちりょう)方法(ほうほう)がとうとう()つかったという(こと)です

    According to professor Nintai, (it is said that) the cure for cancer has been finally discovered.

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      ということだ – Grammar Discussion

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      • mrnoone

        mrnoone

        English translation:
        I heard that
        rumor has it that
        it is said that
        it means that

        Structure:
        Verb + ということだ
        Noun + ということだ

        Explanation:
        [Used to: report of what has been heard (more formal than そうだ), often used with によると/によれば・to explain something・to analyze something]

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      • mrnoone

        mrnoone

      • Anthropos888

        Anthropos888

        Should be possible as well (since the “formal” hint is missing):

      • mrnoone

        mrnoone

        Added as alternative answer!

      • kakapo

        kakapo

        I kinda also feel that らしい would work here too? Especially given the “rumor has it” meaning?

      • matt_in_mito

        matt_in_mito

        I would guess that if you hadn’t put だ then it wouldn’t have been an incorrect answer. Putting だ after らしい is incorrect, as it is with all い adjectives.

      • kakapo

        kakapo

        @matt_in_mito, thanks for your reply!

        Of course, you are right on らしい being an い-adjective. Also, I don’t think I even went through the alternative answers. I will do when the card pops up again.

      • kakapo

        kakapo

        A follow-up and conclusion : らしい is indeed a “semi-accepted” answer.

        Apologies for posting too quickly in the first place

      • Razael

        Razael

        How about adding とのことだ which is a bit more formal but basically the same?

      • mrnoone

        mrnoone

        @Razael
        Hey and welcome on the community forums

        I have added とのこと to answers, and a note about it.

        Thank you very much for the feedback!

        PS
        I think we will have to split the grammar point to ということだ・とのことだ (hearsay) and ということだ (meaning) eventually

      • koko191

        koko191

        Any difference between ということだ and と言われている?

      • ljoekelsoey

        ljoekelsoey

        Quite a few! Taking the above example,

        田中さんと山さんは、秘密で付き合っているということだ。
        It is said that Tanaka and Yamada are secretly dating (bit gossipy, but whatever )

        If you were to replace ということだ with といわれている, the nuance would change to be more concrete. This means there are people literally saying that Tanaka and Yamada are at it, rather than an insinuation that there is a rumour that they are at it. Similarly in English too, the expression “they say” is a bit misleading because there is no “they” and they aren’t saying anything, it is used to express hearsay or a rumour.

      • daniellacda

        daniellacda

        Hi!
        I found this in Shin kanzen master N3 dokkai, it says ~とのことだ is an alternate version of ~ということだ, maybe it could be added too?
        Hope it helps!

      • airblaster

        airblaster

        Could the example “くるしいこともある。でもそれがきるということだ” also be rephrased as “くるしいこともある。でもそれがきるといわれていえる” or would the meaning change?

      • Daru

        Daru

        The meaning would change!

        By saying という言われていえる you would be saying “To be said, it’s possible to say”, so I’m guessing you probably meant "と言われている” as in “it is said”.

        It would change to “but, that is said to be living”. It sounds kind of distant to me, and the meaning definitely goes another other way.

        Huge mental gymnastics but, to me, it feels as if some aliens had some humans in a test tube or something and as these humans suffer and strive, the aliens would take notes as in “so that is what they call to be alive”. I know it’s far-fetched, but I hope it helped!

      • ShinobiTay

        ShinobiTay

        I have a question! what is the difference with とか。 and ということだ。
        Isnt とか just I heard

      • Fuga

        Fuga

        Hey @ShinobiTay !

        ということだ is typically used when you have a high degree of certainty.
        この魚は全く臭くない。まだ新鮮と言う事だ。In this sentence the speaker is certain that the fish is fresh because it does not smell bad.

        とか is used when you have a low degree of certainty.
        彼は最近彼女と別れたとか。In this sentence, the speaker is not too sure if this info is accurate.

        Due to this, とか and 知らないけど, are used together very often to let the listener know that they are not sure if the information they are spreading is accurate or not ( this is done so that the speaker doesn’t have to take responsibility when it comes out that the information they gave was false) .

        明日は日本中で雪が降るとか、知らんけど。‘Apparently it is going to snow all over Japan tomorrow, but who knows (don’t blame me if it doesn’t actually snow)’

        Hope that helps!

      • ShinobiTay

        ShinobiTay

        Thank you that helps a lot!

      • bokudake

        bokudake

        Is using ということなのだ at the end of the sentence wrong instead of this grammar point? After all it only adds more emphasis.

        I failed this time, however, it means I challenged myself with new things.
        今回()失敗()だったけど、()しいことにチャレンジしたということだ
        vs
        今回()失敗()だったけど、()しいことにチャレンジしたということなのだ

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