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N3 Lesson 10: 19/21

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        • Pushindawood

          Pushindawood

          it is (has been)
          have/has become
          happen to be
          has been established

          Structure

          • Noun + / + Noun + となっている
          • Noun + / + な-Adjective + となっている

          となっている can also appear as a conjunctive:
          となっていて or となっており¹

          [Very often translated as “to be”・Can be rephrased to になっている, but となっている is more formal and has more of a sense of finality]

          [Expresses that some change has happened and persists or implies that something has reached its final stage]

          [Often used to explain/convey a new fact to readers/listeners (e.g. in comparison with the previous state of something, expressing a rule, tradition, etc.)]

          [¹In writing, ており is

        • MZa

          MZa

          Could you explain why the と particle is used here? With which meaning? If it is as the quotation particle, i don’t see the logic behind it.

        • jptr

          jptr

          "The verb なる means to be or to become, to turn into.

          Adding と and に in front it changes the meaning a bit.

          The basic differences? While になる is a natural change, となる implies having reached a final stage."

          From this article:
          https://maggiesensei.com/2010/12/10/となる-vs-になる -to-naru-vs-ni-naru/

        • blacktide

          blacktide

          Based on the post below on Japanese StackExchange, it seems that it’s the quotative particle, although I can’t find a good explanation to why.

          Here are some detailed nuances based on my studies.

          となる is similar to になる but with the following changes:

          • となる can only be used with nouns.
          • となる is more formal and not used often in conversation.
          • となる has a dramatic tone.
          • となる implies reaching a “final stage” as @jptr menti...
        • okayfrog

          okayfrog

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        • nekoyama

          nekoyama

          The grammar point for the formal conjunctive is a bit earlier in N3, but いる is a special case: It’s not used in this form and instead replaced with おる.

        • okayfrog

          okayfrog

          oh that grammar point. tbh, I never really understood that point.

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