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  Jake

  without
  unless

  Structure

  • Noun + 抜きで (は)
  • Noun + 抜きに (は)
  • Noun + を 抜きにして (は)
  • Noun + は 抜きとして (は)
  • Noun1 + 抜きの + Noun2

  抜きでは can be contracted to 抜きじゃ.

  [Used to express ‘without’ something normally expected in the situation. Often used as A抜き + negative B meaning that something cannot be (done) without A. In this construction 抜きにして(は) is used more often]

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  megatron0000

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  Fuga

  Thank you for letting us know about this! It seems like the link has been replaced!

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  Maykeye

  I’m confused. Structure mentions “Noun + 抜( )きに(は)”
  Explanation doesn’t provide anything about に(only mentions にしては), hinative mentions no difference,

  However

  お寿司()屋()さん：「ご注文()はお決()まりですか？」お客()さん：「はい、マグロのにぎりをワサビ___お願()いします。」

  rejectes ぬきに and provides no clarification why

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  Fuga

  Hey @Maykeye !

  Although the person on hinative says they are the same, the nuance of 抜きで and 抜きに is different due to the difference in nuance between に and で.

  Since で is a particle used to highlight something that is ‘required’ to reach some kind of goal, 抜きで sounds more natural with this sentence because the customer is asking the chef to make a nigiri ‘by’ not using わさび.

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  okayfrog

  私()にとってコーラぬきでハンバーガーを食()べることは考()えられない

  why is 抜()きの considered wrong here? In “Structure” it says to use 抜()きの before a noun.