Grammar Info

N2 Lesson 10: 7/22

()(かく)Setting aside, Apart from

Structure

Noun + + ともかく(として)

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About はともかく

はともかく is an expression which makes use of the adverbial-particle は, and the adverb ()(かく) meaning 'to set aside', or 'at any rate'. This structure will be used when the speaker wants to change the topic from (A) to (B), or mention (B) as being something additional on top of (A).

はともかく is primarily seen following nouns in their dictionary forms. In many cases, this will be when (A) is something that the speaker thinks is not worth considering, or not worth making an issue out of when (B) is more important.

Fun-fact

The adverb ()(かく) is thought to have come from the Buddhist expression 兎角亀毛(とかくきもう), meaning 'horns on rabbits, fur on turtles', referring to things that do not exist. Although this particular meaning is not widely accepted as being strongly related to the modern meaning of ()(かく), some relation can be drawn between it and English phrases such as '(A) is neither here nor there' in reference to something that is non-existent, or of little importance.

  • 美人(びじん)美人(びじん)じゃないかはともかく(やさ)しくて料理(りょうり)上手(じょうず)(ひと)結婚(けっこん)をしたい。
    I want to marry someone who is kind and a good cook, whether she is beautiful or not is neither here nor there.

Examples

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    冗談(じょうだん)()(かく)、そろそろビジネスの(はなし)だ。

    All jokes aside, let's get down to business.

    日本語(にほんご)能力(のうりょく)試験(しけん)合格(ごうかく)したか()(かく)過去(かこ)半年(はんとし)(かん)にたくさんのことを(まな)んだ。

    Setting aside whether I passed the JLPT or not, I have learned a lot over the last six months.

      家屋(かおく)()(かく)としてもだ、せめてアルバムだけでも()って()げたい。

      Setting aside the house, I at least want to take the album and run.

      カタカナ()(かく)平仮名(ひらがな)()めないと(こま)ります。

      Apart from katakana, you will be in trouble if you can't read hiragana.

      楽器(がっき)()(かく)、せめて(うた)だけでも(うた)いましょうよ。

      Setting aside instruments, let's at least sing a song.

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        はともかく – Grammar Discussion

        Most Recent Replies (4 in total)

        • mathijsdm

          mathijsdm

          Yeah, I don’t really know how it comes either, but it’s probably this video if you’re still looking for it :

          Copying the title from BunPro in youtube seems to give the video, but the links don’t seem to work

        • matt_in_mito

          matt_in_mito

          Why is this incorrect? If it’s not, please can we get a “can you say it a different way?” or something? Cheers

        • mrnoone

          mrnoone

          Yo @matt_in_mito !
          It is completely natural!
          I have added it as an alternative answer.
          Cheers

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