お〜するI humbly do, I am obliged to do, Humble speech

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  Pushindawood

  I humbly do, I am obliged to do

  Structure

  • お + verb[stem] + する
  • お / ご + するVerb* + する

  [Used when you humbly do something out of respect for someone]
  Examples of するverbs: 電話する→お電話する；案内する →ご案内する etc

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  d11

  Today I got the sentence that was supposed to be completed as

  あの会社にお勤めしています

  I tried

  あの会社に勤めております

  because Genki said that います → おります was how to make sentences like this humble. This was marked incorrect.

  Was my answer incorrect? If so, could folks educate me on the differences?

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  mrnoone

  Hey

  Actually,

  あの会社に勤めております
  

  is the grammatically correct answer. Because ている should be changed into ておる in humble speech.

  あの会社に お勤めしています

  Is sometimes used, but is not entirely correct.
  I have rewritten the example.

  Thank you for spotting it and sorry for the inconvenience

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  s1212z

  Are there plans to add separate ておる examples or modify within お〜する?

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  mrnoone

  Yes, there are plans to revamp whole honorific/humble section and make it a bit more comprehensive

  Cheers,

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  Ambo100

  So, it seems like the majority of example sentences for お〜する actually use the polite ます form which would make sense given this grammar point is for humble speech.

  However, I wonder what cases would it be appropriate to use the non-polite form with お〜?

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  e-e

  I’m having a very hard time determining when to use お〜する vs お/ご〜いたす. For example, in the review:
  明日あした、サカモト先生せんせいにおでんわします。
  the prompt is " I will humbly call Sakamoto-sensei tomorrow". In the grammar description, it says that 〜いたす is the even more humble version of お〜する, but the reviews don’t seem to make much distinction between the level of “humbleness” in the prompts.

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  owlhoods

  Whenever I get the sentence これを彼かれにお渡わたししてください I mistake it for the お～ください grammar point and write お渡しください, getting marked wrong. I can’t quite figure out what the difference is here.

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  Daru

  お渡ししてください is using the お～する (this lesson’s structure) up until the して。By adding ください it becomes the てください Grammar Point I’m sure you know.

  お渡しください is closer to お～願います since it’s not using する.

  In short, it’s not that they don’t wind up meaning the same thing (in fact they do!), it’s mostly the Review asking you to specifically answer お～する.

  Hope this helps!

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  LarsVegas

  The grammar point states お~する is more commonly used than いたす. Which to my understanding makes them equivalent. What makes いたす “over the top”?
  For example, it said
  あなたの分もお作いたします。
  is “over the top”.
  あなたの分もお作りします。
  is the correct answer.

  If it says いたします is “over the top”, I know to switch to お~する. But I want to understand the reasoning behind it.
  Should I by default answer with お~する and switch, when it tells me otherwise or is there a structure that I should notice, when to use いたす?

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  Yumari-1
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  IcyIceBear

  します is the polite conjugation for する, which being the whole point of お〜する is humble politeness, they would all end in します. Daru was just explaining that the questions are testing for お〜する and not お〜ください (even though they are synonyms). Not that every sentence will end in する specifically, since you still have to conjugate the grammar point into the appropriate politeness level. You say it takes いたす、but that’s because it’s already more polite in itself, so the ます ending isn’t entirely necessary. So I’m not sure if there’s a question here …?

  Objectively, this works here because つもり needs plain form before it....

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  brianmik

  I had a different question about the お渡ししてください construction:

  The entire phrase is これを彼にお渡ししてください.

  Since this is humble speech, meant to talk about oneself (and one’s in-group), does this mean that the “him” is the third person that you’re being polite toward, and the actual listener (the person who’s supposed to give him “this”) is in the same group (i.e., family member) as the speaker?

  Basically, I can’t understand why this humble speech pattern is used when asking someone else to do something…

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  MakroneBiest997

  I have pretty much the same question as Brian, just regarding these example sentences:

  ご注文する時はこちらのベルを押してください。

  And

  ご登録する方はこちらをクリックしてください。

  It seems to me that humble speech is misplaced here, since it is refering to someone elses actions.

  But as usual I’m probably just missing something kinda obvious.

  I would gladly appreciate some clarification regarding these examples, if possible.

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  ThiagoIanuch

  I also have this same question

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  nekoyama

  I also don’t like the keigo in those sentences.

  お渡ししてください is translated as “please humbly hand…” so I guess it’s intentional, but I think if you are in a position to talk to someone like that then ください is out of place. To make the keigo match, it could be お渡ししなさい or お渡しください.

  ご注文する時は I would just write ご注文の時は instead. の can get you out of a lot of keigo problems like that.

  ご登録する方は is the same but constructions like ご登録をご希望の方は are common.